HardwareZone Forum Singaporean Personal Finance Update: Community Insights and Analysis (27 Nov – 25 Dec 2024)

Executive Summary

The HardwareZone forum discussions on Singaporean personal finance reveal a community actively navigating the complexities of local banking promotions, investment options, and long-term financial planning. Recent discussions are heavily focused on maximizing returns from high-yield savings accounts and fixed deposits amidst fluctuating interest rates. Users are also keenly observing changes in bank policies, particularly regarding premier banking requirements and the phasing out of SMS notifications. The community demonstrates a strong interest in understanding investment products, including ETFs, unit trusts, and government bonds, while also sharing practical tips and experiences.

The discussions highlight a shift towards more sophisticated financial strategies, with users exploring diverse investment avenues and diligently tracking their returns. A key theme is the careful evaluation of risk versus reward, particularly regarding potentially volatile assets like cryptocurrency. Recent data points include a 3.02% cut-off yield for a 6-month T-bill and various promotional interest rates on fixed deposits ranging from 2.7% to 3.2%. The community also expressed concern about recent home loan interest rate hikes and the potential impact of federal rate cuts.



Key Developments

Banking Promotions and Interest Rates

Recent weeks have seen a flurry of changes in banking promotions, with several banks adjusting their interest rates on fixed deposits and high-yield savings accounts. Maybank, for instance, increased its 2-year fixed rate loan to *2.70%* p.a. in late November, while DBS was offering *2.68%* p.a. for a similar term. UOB’s 2-year fixed rate was at *2.50%* p.a. around the same time, and OCBC had a tiered rate of *2.60%* p.a. in year 1 and *2.38%* p.a. in year 2. These rates are constantly fluctuating, prompting users to actively “shop around.”

“I have been shopping around for 2yr fixed rate loan for past few weeks and these are what I gathered…” – singaporean11 (28 Nov 2024)

CIMB’s FastSaver account, a popular topic, saw its promotional interest rate drop from *3.3% to 3.2% in December, with a tiered structure offering 3.3% for balances between SGD 50,000 and SGD 75,000*. GXS Bank’s interest rates have also been revised downwards, reflecting a broader trend of online banks adjusting their rates.

“wah, gxs drop the interest rate for 3mths from 3.28 to 3.18% liao” – ~sabaisabai~ (29 Nov 2024)

Premier Banking and Accredited Investor Status

Discussions revealed that Standard Chartered Bank (SCB) requires *SGD 1* million in liquid assets to qualify as an Accredited Investor (AI) and *SGD 1.5* million to join its Priority Private program. These requirements highlight the significant financial threshold for accessing exclusive banking services. Users have mixed opinions about the benefits of such programs, with some finding them lacking in tangible value beyond relationship managers (RMs) pushing sales.

“To join SCB’s priority private, you must bring in SGD 1.5mio of liquid assets to park wif them.” – addict951 (27 Nov 2024)

The debate on custodian fees also emerged, with users expressing strong aversion to paying such fees on top of transaction fees, especially when some banks, like SCB, offer fee waivers for AI clients. Some banks, like DBS Treasures, have been criticized for changing policies and reimposing fees after a change in management.

“Only stupid idiots pay custodian fees for stocks/bonds they bought on top of transaction fees they are already paying!” – singaporean11 (29 Nov 2024)

CPF and Government Bonds

The community closely follows updates on CPF retirement sums. The Full Retirement Sum (FRS) is projected to reach *SGD 228,200 by 2027, with an annual growth rate of around 3.5% from 2025-2027. The Basic Healthcare Sum (BHS) has seen an average year-on-year growth rate of 4.63% from 2017 to 2024. Discussions also covered the Astrea 8 bond offering from Azalea, which was launched on 20 Jan 2025. The Singapore Savings Bond (SSB) maturing in January 2025 (SBJAN25) is projected to have an average return of 2.86% over 10 years. A new SSB (SBFEB25) was also discussed with a 10-year average return of 2.71%*.

“Based on the future FRSes announced up to 2027, where it will be SGD 228,200, the annual growth rate from 2025-7 is around 3.5%.” – lzydata (28 Nov 2024)



Community Insights

User Experiences

Many users shared firsthand experiences with various banking products and services. One user recounted a negative experience with DBS Treasures, where a previously agreed-upon waiver of custodian fees was revoked, leading to the user shifting their investments elsewhere. Another user described the complexity of CIMB’s FastSaver account promotion, noting the need to maintain a minimum incremental balance of *SGD 5,000* at the end of each month to qualify for the bonus interest. Some users reported issues with HSBC’s Everyday Global Account (EGA) bonus interest crediting, experiencing delays and inconsistent SMS notifications.

“DBS Treasures RM previously agreed to waive my custodian fees of stocks in DBS Treasures… then one day a new head took over and and they started to impose custodian fees on my stocks.” – singaporean11 (29 Nov 2024)

Users also discussed the challenges of transferring large sums of money between banks, with some reporting temporary blocks and the need for verification calls. Experiences with newer banks like MariBank were shared, with some users highlighting the convenience of daily interest crediting but also acknowledging the need for caution due to its relative newness. A user shared a personal experience of their wife’s credit card being compromised shortly after receiving it, highlighting the potential risks involved.

“xfer huge amount from uob to scb kena stop by uob, after verification ok liao lol” – hwarzoner (01 Dec 2024)

Tips and Recommendations

The forum participants offered several practical tips and recommendations. For those looking for higher returns, fixed deposit accounts at RHB and Hong Leong Finance were recommended, with rates around *3%*. Users also suggested considering T-bills and Singapore Savings Bonds (SSBs) for relatively low-risk investments. For high-yield savings accounts, CIMB’s FastSaver, SCB’s eSaver, and MariBank’s SavePlus were frequently mentioned, with users highlighting the importance of understanding each promotion’s specific terms and conditions.

“For FDs the best deal seems to be HL Bank at 3.2% for minimum SGD 100k, 3 or 6 months. This exceeds T-bill or SSB yields.” – lzydata (06 Dec 2024)

Users advised caution against unit trusts sold by banks, highlighting high sales charges and recurring fees, and suggested exploring low-cost ETFs through platforms like Endowus, IBKR, or POEMS. The community also advised against being overly reliant on RMs, emphasizing the importance of self-education and understanding investment products. For those struggling to meet spending requirements for credit card promotions, users suggested paying bills in advance or topping up stored value cards.

“A 3% sale charge is basically daylight robbery, pls dont be an idiot and give away your money for free.” – Mephist0pheLes (01 Dec 2024)



Important Considerations

Users cautioned about the need to carefully review the terms and conditions of banking promotions, noting that many have complex requirements and may not be as straightforward as they appear. The importance of maintaining the required minimum balances, especially on the last day of the month, was repeatedly emphasized. Users also noted that some banks are phasing out SMS notifications in favor of email and in-app alerts, which may impact the timeliness of notifications.

“The tnc states To qualify for bonus interest/ profit for the current month, month-end incremental balance from December 2024 to February 2025 need to be more than SGD 5,000 in fresh funds# compared against the end-of-day 30 November 2024 balance.” – sglandscape (01 Dec 2024)

The community also discussed the risks associated with cryptocurrency and the importance of having a diversified portfolio. They also pointed out that while government-backed instruments like T-bills and SSBs are considered safe, their yields may not always beat inflation. The importance of understanding the differences between various investment products, such as ETFs, unit trusts, and individual stocks, was also emphasized.

“You need to know the fund is a bunch of ETF and for some ppl they are already buying direct into some specific ETF itself.” – sohguanh (30 Nov 2024)



Looking Ahead

The forum participants anticipate further fluctuations in interest rates and banking promotions in the coming months. They expect local banks to offer fixed deposit promotions using CPF funds again in early 2025. The community is also closely watching developments in the housing market and the potential impact of interest rate cuts. Several users are looking forward to new promotions and are actively strategizing to maximize their returns. There is also anticipation for more low cost investment options to emerge.

“Jan should have because SA close. I also expect the local banks to start offering FD using CPF funds again in Jan/Feb.” – vsvs24 (30 Nov 2024)

Users expressed curiosity about the new MoneyOwl by Temasek Trust initiatives and its potential impact on the financial advisory landscape. Many are keen to see how banks adapt to the changing technological landscape, particularly concerning communication methods and online banking security. The community will likely continue to share their experiences and insights as they navigate the evolving world of Singaporean personal finance.


Discussion Sources

This update is based on community discussions from the following HardwareZone forum threads:

Last updated: 25 December 2024

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